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at 11:51 this morning when lindsay graham told that lie about ambassador susan rice, little lindsay graham, and i speak not of his physical stature, i speak of the size of this tiny man's character, little lindsay graham became the senate's new joe mccarthy. the word liar belongs before his name now instead of senator until lindsay graham retracts that lie, until he says i was wrong to call ambassador right, quote, an essential player in the benghazi debacle. that lie cannot stand. the media cannot allow it to stand, but we know better. we can be assured that the media will, for the most part, actually allow it to stand. liar lindsey graham will continue to be invited on tv shows where that statement will not be called a lie. it may be challenged, but it will not be called a lie. liar lindsay graham, of course, has an open invitation to come on this program and retract his lie or try to get away with it again and see how that works out for him here. liar lindsey graham and john mccain are the same who had no problem for another named rice, after she failed miserably as george bush's nation
at 11:51 this morning when lindsay graham told that lie about ambassador susan rice, little lindsay graham, and i speak not of his physical stature, i speak of the size of this tiny man's character, little lindsay graham became the senate's new joe mccarthy. the word liar belongs before his name now instead of senator until lindsay graham retracts that lie, until he says i was wrong to call ambassador right, quote, an essential player in the benghazi debacle. that lie cannot stand. the media...
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john mccain and lindsey graham know this is much ado about nothing. are there legitimate questions to ask, bureaucratic questions about how information moves up the chain of command? of course. there always are in these sorts of situations. especially when they're tragic like this. but does that mean it's some sort of scandal, you know, watergate style cover-up or there was an effort to have people, quote, stand down in the fashion of terrorism? it's ridiculous. >> it's worth mentioning the president at the press conference made it clear that four americans did lose their lives and he's deeply concerned about that. and we all should be. but republicans e especially senators mccain and graham, have been beating up on u.n. ambassador susan rice every single day for the last two months. and the president stood up to that bullying today. take a listen. >> to bring those who carried it out to justice. they won't get any debate from me on that. but when they go after the u.n. ambassador, apparently because they think she's an easy target, then they've got a
john mccain and lindsey graham know this is much ado about nothing. are there legitimate questions to ask, bureaucratic questions about how information moves up the chain of command? of course. there always are in these sorts of situations. especially when they're tragic like this. but does that mean it's some sort of scandal, you know, watergate style cover-up or there was an effort to have people, quote, stand down in the fashion of terrorism? it's ridiculous. >> it's worth mentioning...
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i think there's one big issue, lindsey graham would agree with this. i just talked to lindsay about this a couple days ago, we have to get over this immigration reform hurdle. president bush was on the right track with comprehensive immigration reform. if we passed that, we would be a party that probably had a 40%, 45% hispanic base. >> how do you sell the message to the fringe of your party? that's not a message they want to hear. >> big opportunity lost in mitt romney losing, because that's one of the thing mitt romney could have accomplished with a democratic senate, republican house, a new president, he probably could have gotten 100, 150 republican votes for comprehensive immigration reform, which means to the hispanic community, being sensible about the 12, 14, 15 million people who are here. he can't deport them all, can't chase them all out. sure, you can focus on the ones who are criminals or doing bad things. i know that community really well and 90% of them are hard-working people who are actually making a contribution. so why the heck do we
i think there's one big issue, lindsey graham would agree with this. i just talked to lindsay about this a couple days ago, we have to get over this immigration reform hurdle. president bush was on the right track with comprehensive immigration reform. if we passed that, we would be a party that probably had a 40%, 45% hispanic base. >> how do you sell the message to the fringe of your party? that's not a message they want to hear. >> big opportunity lost in mitt romney losing,...
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and as lindsey graham said, the latino vote, huge difference there. we'rwith questions fromtump sombing elections.kies do you know where your polling place is? maybe somewhere around my house. mine's just, right over that way. well you can find out exactly where it is using bing elections. it's a good day for politics. which way do you lean politically? conservative. republican. well, using the bing news selector you can find news from whichever way you lean. (together) social on this side, financial. which party is currently predicted to win a majority in the senate? the republicans? would you make a bet on that? no. are you chicken? i wish my patients could see what i see. ♪ that over time, having high cholesterol and any of these risk factors can put them at increased risk for plaque buildup in their arteries. so it's even more important to lower their cholesterol, and that's why, when diet and exercise alone aren't enough, i prescribe crestor. in a clinical trial versus lipitor, crestor got more high-risk patients' bad cholesterol to a goal of u
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, son of billy graham. mr. graham tells a right wing website that the president's re-election puts the nation on, and i'm quoting him, a path of destruction and suggested that only, quote, complete economic collapse can put the nation back on the path to godliness. i thought, sir, that godliness was about taking care of the poor and the marginalized. mr. graham seems to be suggesting that the president's concern for these individuals, those individuals represented by people like yourself, that this is a path to destruction. >> well, i think that what mr. graham's message is certainly something that we could say that we were on the way to economic collapse, and this president brought us back. so not only is he theologically unsound, he's historically inaccurate. the fact of the matter is if he was paying attention, we almost went to our knees, and now we're working our way back 32 months of job creation. we're seeing the whole economy starting a recovery, so i think mr. graham is off base both historically,
, son of billy graham. mr. graham tells a right wing website that the president's re-election puts the nation on, and i'm quoting him, a path of destruction and suggested that only, quote, complete economic collapse can put the nation back on the path to godliness. i thought, sir, that godliness was about taking care of the poor and the marginalized. mr. graham seems to be suggesting that the president's concern for these individuals, those individuals represented by people like yourself, that...
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>> senator john mccain and senator lindsey graham said today they want watergate-style hearings on the attack on the consulate in benghazi. >> i want to ask about the families of four killed. >> general petraeus is where we begin at the white house. i guess it's a good bet they would be coming up today. >> reporter: yeah. you saw the ap ask it. it didn't dominate as much as we thought. our friends at telemundo asked a question and coming back on immigration. he talked about the fiscal cliff. he laid down the law you saw him there. he wants the tax cuts extended for everybody under $250,000 and got to general petraeus and this whole intertwined story with benghazi, that's when it got really rough. the president took out after republicans namely john mccain and lindsey graham for the criticism leveled at susan rice. the u.n. secretary, shortly after the attacks that resulted in the death of four americans, she went on "meet the press" and other sunday shows and said what happened in benghazi was the result of a spontaneous protest that morphed in to something else and resulted in the dea
>> senator john mccain and senator lindsey graham said today they want watergate-style hearings on the attack on the consulate in benghazi. >> i want to ask about the families of four killed. >> general petraeus is where we begin at the white house. i guess it's a good bet they would be coming up today. >> reporter: yeah. you saw the ap ask it. it didn't dominate as much as we thought. our friends at telemundo asked a question and coming back on immigration. he talked...
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. >> reporter: senators john mccain and lindsey graham said rice was either lying or incompetent when she made this statement five days after the attack. >> we don't have information at present that leads us to conclude this was premeditated or preplanned. >> reporter: president obama said the ambassador was presenting the intelligence information she was given. he challenged those who attacked ambassador rice. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody they should go after me. >> reporter: senator mccain accepted that offer. >> the president of the united states, the commander-in-chief is the most responsible and i hope the president has no illusions about our view of his responsibility. >> reporter: mccain and graham want a watergate style committee to investigate the benghazi attack. and general petraeus will testify here on capitol hill tomorrow morning at 7:30 a.m. back to you. >>> president obama and republicans in congress have staked out their position on the so-called fiscal cliff. that's the package of tax increase and spending cuts schedule
. >> reporter: senators john mccain and lindsey graham said rice was either lying or incompetent when she made this statement five days after the attack. >> we don't have information at present that leads us to conclude this was premeditated or preplanned. >> reporter: president obama said the ambassador was presenting the intelligence information she was given. he challenged those who attacked ambassador rice. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to...
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. >> what else did senator graham say? still licking their wounds from an election night trouncing. >> if you had said to me three weeks ago, mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he's 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> dumbfounded. is all this a sign that republicans are now ready to meet in the middle on issues like immigration and taxes? will they move faster on immigration? you can join our conversation on twitter. you can find me at @tamronhall and my team at @newsnation. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and my daughter loves the santa. oh, ah sir. that is a customer. let's not tell mom. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power f
. >> what else did senator graham say? still licking their wounds from an election night trouncing. >> if you had said to me three weeks ago, mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he's 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> dumbfounded. is all this a sign that republicans are now ready to meet in the middle on issues like immigration and taxes? will they move faster on immigration? you can join our conversation on twitter. you can...
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and lindsey graham needs to give it up too. and they need to suck it up and start to work across the aisle like they have in the past, and show some basic respect for the president of the united states. >> i mean, this is the first shot over the bow, as to how the next congress is going to feel about one another. i mean, do you think mccain and graham would have the troops to stop her if she does, and the president says today he hasn't made that determination yet, whether he's going to nominate her or not. do you think they have the chops to do that? >> sure. in the senate, it only takes a couple of people to filibuster. and then there aren't the 60 votes. and if they go through with this, if they don't back down, it will be hard for her to get confirmed. that's the reality of the u.s. senate. so it seems to me and i think a lot of other people that the president and senator mccain need to get together, you know, not have a beer summit, maybe drink something harder, and, you know, try to work this out and establish some kind of
and lindsey graham needs to give it up too. and they need to suck it up and start to work across the aisle like they have in the past, and show some basic respect for the president of the united states. >> i mean, this is the first shot over the bow, as to how the next congress is going to feel about one another. i mean, do you think mccain and graham would have the troops to stop her if she does, and the president says today he hasn't made that determination yet, whether he's going to...
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richardson. >> thank you, alex. >> let's focus first on the mccain, graham, ayotte piece which seems to be political the fact they're calling for watergate style investigations and at the same time, john mccain isn't attending the high-level security briefings relating to the incident. >> well, first, the congress does have a legitimate role in oversight on benghazi, on nominations but, however, this seems to be getting political though senator mccain is an honorable man. i've known him for many year, but so is ambassador rice. i've known her. she's for thorough professiona. the u.n. ambassador is a cabinet member. but the u.n. ambassador's role is in new york dealing with security counsel, sanctions on iran, sanctions on north korea. you're not in the daily ma maelstrom in washington, d.c. the information that the intelligence community provided her at the time, but that intelligence changes. so i think the president is right, to back his people. secondly, to say that ambassador rice was deceptive is wrong. she is reading from pieces of paper that you get every morning from either a
richardson. >> thank you, alex. >> let's focus first on the mccain, graham, ayotte piece which seems to be political the fact they're calling for watergate style investigations and at the same time, john mccain isn't attending the high-level security briefings relating to the incident. >> well, first, the congress does have a legitimate role in oversight on benghazi, on nominations but, however, this seems to be getting political though senator mccain is an honorable man. i've...
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senator graham we appreciate your time. >> coming up. when you listen to senator gr aham do you get a sense that we are looking at anything other than gridlock? both sides completely disagree. >> everybody will say it's the road map, and then we get to a roadblock. you do ee eer boehner who said he wants to be conciliatory. the burden is on the president of the united states and even a bit more so than usual, speaker boehner feels burned by the last time they went down the path. he thought he had a deal with the president. and he thinks the president walked away from it. is this a game of chicken? who blinks first? the president gives up higher taxes on the rich. republicans give up something on the short-term and more on the long-term. that is going to be the dance and the stakes are pretty normous. >> candy, can you see where the president gives up higher taxes on the wealthy? he did get re-elected on this and he's been clear on this issue. this was a major thing that he ran on. yes, and he said if he got a bill that did not include th
senator graham we appreciate your time. >> coming up. when you listen to senator gr aham do you get a sense that we are looking at anything other than gridlock? both sides completely disagree. >> everybody will say it's the road map, and then we get to a roadblock. you do ee eer boehner who said he wants to be conciliatory. the burden is on the president of the united states and even a bit more so than usual, speaker boehner feels burned by the last time they went down the path. he...
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what happened to terrence graham? he got sentenced. he didn't get sentenced to life without parole that was now unconstitutional. if you actually read what happened at the sentencing hearing for terrence graham, there was, again, dueling psychologists with a scrist and the state sigh kentucky scrist made the claim he was suffering from anti-personality disorder and in his view, no one recovers from anti-personality disorder and therefore he should be put away virtually for the rest of his life and the defense expert is said there has already been demonstration of his increased maturity and that i do think that he will mature out of it and the brain science supported the defense side of that. he got 25 years. that was the sentence. so even though i very much agree as a constitutional matter, we can draw those bright lines at the group level, in the end, just by necessity the law has to deal with individuals. >> would you agree that the judicial system is not really the best place for us to be determining whether or not the science behin
what happened to terrence graham? he got sentenced. he didn't get sentenced to life without parole that was now unconstitutional. if you actually read what happened at the sentencing hearing for terrence graham, there was, again, dueling psychologists with a scrist and the state sigh kentucky scrist made the claim he was suffering from anti-personality disorder and in his view, no one recovers from anti-personality disorder and therefore he should be put away virtually for the rest of his life...
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but that's basically what john mccain and lindsey graham are saying. that she wasn't responsible for benghazi, so why did the white house put her out there? and they're saying only for political rains. and they criticize ambassador rice for not asking more questions. she got a briefing. she got a briefing on the latest intelligence, says the white house. the white house says they're the ones that put her out there. so if what she said turns out not to be true later, they should take the blame. but, boy, what a fierce defense. i'm not holding my breath much longer on seeing who his nominee is probably going to be for secretary of state. >> and wants to have a fight. interesting, though, there's no greater defender of david petraeus, we'll talk about in a moment, than john mccain. he has been a longtime champion. and she got intelligence briefing, that was coming from david petraeus, isn't that right? >> that was certainly contributed to by david petraeus, and jim clapper and they were pretty critical of clapper, but i didn't hear much criticism of petra
but that's basically what john mccain and lindsey graham are saying. that she wasn't responsible for benghazi, so why did the white house put her out there? and they're saying only for political rains. and they criticize ambassador rice for not asking more questions. she got a briefing. she got a briefing on the latest intelligence, says the white house. the white house says they're the ones that put her out there. so if what she said turns out not to be true later, they should take the blame....
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. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody they should go after me. i'm happy to have that discussion with them. >> escalating violence in the middle east. israelis and palestinians are killed as tensions reach a boiling point along israel's border with gaza. >>> getting answers officials in new york demand details from utility companies on their handling of hurricane sandy. this is the "cbs morning news" for thursday, november 15, 2012. good morning. thanks for joining us. i'm duarte geraldino. the sex scandal that forced cia director david petraeus to resign is widening. here's what we know. petraeus' mistress paula broadwell sent emails to petraeus and other senior military leaders besides general john allen. he's the top commander in afghanistan. meanwhile the fbi agent frederick humphries who launched the investigation of emails is being investigated by the fbi for his role in the case. specifically why he took concerns about this case to republican members of congress. house and senate panels are expected to meet again today with fbi and cia of
. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody they should go after me. i'm happy to have that discussion with them. >> escalating violence in the middle east. israelis and palestinians are killed as tensions reach a boiling point along israel's border with gaza. >>> getting answers officials in new york demand details from utility companies on their handling of hurricane sandy. this is the "cbs morning news" for thursday, november...
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senator graham we appreciate your time. >> coming up. when you listen to senator gr a aham do you get a sense that we are looking at anything other than gridlock? every one will say it is a roadblock. you do have leader read saying i'm not going to draw any lines in the sand. speaker boehner feels burned. he thought he had a deal with the president. and he thinks the president walked away from it. the president gives up higher taxes on the rich. republicans give up something on the short-term and more on the long-term. that is going to be the dance and the stakes are great. >> he did get re-elected on this and he has been clear on this issue. this was a major thing that he ran on. yes, and he said if he got a bill that did not include the end of tax hikes for the wealthy, he would veto it. you know the pressure i think is on all of them but let's remember the pressure for the president. one of the things that is difficult about a coalition that puts you in office is every part of the coalition wants to protect something. they think they
senator graham we appreciate your time. >> coming up. when you listen to senator gr a aham do you get a sense that we are looking at anything other than gridlock? every one will say it is a roadblock. you do have leader read saying i'm not going to draw any lines in the sand. speaker boehner feels burned. he thought he had a deal with the president. and he thinks the president walked away from it. the president gives up higher taxes on the rich. republicans give up something on the...
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franklin graham needs to read his bible more carefully. he would find 2,000 verses in the bible about how betreat poor people. that's what it means to be evangelical. his narrow view i think is coming to an end. >> reverend evangelist jim wall p is, thank you for coming in. coming up, the evolution of a right wing smear. we've seen then movie before. that's next. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. monarch of marketing analysis. with the ability to improve roi through seo all by cob. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. i'm going b-i-g. [ male announcer ] good choice business pro. good choice. go national. go like a pro. that was me... the day i learned i had to start insulin for my
franklin graham needs to read his bible more carefully. he would find 2,000 verses in the bible about how betreat poor people. that's what it means to be evangelical. his narrow view i think is coming to an end. >> reverend evangelist jim wall p is, thank you for coming in. coming up, the evolution of a right wing smear. we've seen then movie before. that's next. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop...
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if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. and we're after an election now. i think it is important for us to find out exactly what happened in benghazi and i'm happy to cooperate in any way that congress wants. we have provided every bit of information that we have and we will continue to provide information and we've got a full-blown investigation and all that information will be disclosed to congress. i don't think there's any debate in this country when you have four americans killed, that's a problem. and we've got to get to the bottom of it and there needs to be accountability. we have to bring those who carried it out to justice. they won't get any debate from me on that. when they go after the u.n. ambassador, apparently because they think she's an easy target, then
if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. and we're after an election now. i think it is important for us to find out exactly what happened in benghazi and i'm happy to cooperate in...
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and graham is willing to do it on immigration. he's going to say that this morning. we need other people to do the same. >> we will leave it there as this debate continues. senators, thank you both very much. >> you're welcome. >>> coming up here, you heard where both sides stand. we're going to have some reaction to these two senators and analysis on where the negotiations go from here. >>> also, the economic stakes. if lawmakers can't get a deal, what does it mean to all of us? we will check in with the host of cnbc's "mad money," that's jim cramer. >>> also, we'll talk more broadly about the politics post-election and more on the petraeus 1k57b8d that's unfolding around this roundtable. joaquin castro from texas, doris kearns goodwin, historian, of course. more from bob woodward and our own chuck todd as we continue here on "meet the press." -10 years of service. -5 years of service. -6 years. -8 years. 31 years of service. 26 years. i served for 20 years. -5 years. -3 years. ♪ -i was ready to serve. -just gotten married. ♪ i was right out of school. my family
and graham is willing to do it on immigration. he's going to say that this morning. we need other people to do the same. >> we will leave it there as this debate continues. senators, thank you both very much. >> you're welcome. >>> coming up here, you heard where both sides stand. we're going to have some reaction to these two senators and analysis on where the negotiations go from here. >>> also, the economic stakes. if lawmakers can't get a deal, what does it...
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the president said if mccain and graham want to go after somebody, they ought to go after me. take a listen to that as well. >> for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> the president also said that he's open to compromise here. he doesn't want to slam the door on republicans. he said he's going to be looking for ideas from everyone. >> all right, eamon. thanks for much. i want to show you what's going on with brian sullivan. he's walking with some of the ceos that have just come out of the white house. let's listen in. >> we employ a lot of the people in this country and around the world. there's nothing that i can say more importantly than a solution to this problem is paramount. that will require we give on all sides. >> do you believe we'll get a solution? >> absolutely. i'm done. we'll get a solution. excuse me. thank you, sir. >> everybody belongs back over here. >> all right. as you saw, that was ursula burn
the president said if mccain and graham want to go after somebody, they ought to go after me. take a listen to that as well. >> for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> the president also said that he's open to compromise here. he doesn't want to slam the door on republicans. he said he's going to be looking for ideas...
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graham and i are talking to our colleagues about this right now and i think we have a darn good chance using this blueprint to get something done this year. the republican party has learned that being anti-illegal and anti-immigrant doesn't work for them politically and they know t. >> senator coburn, what is the lesson for your party from this election? >> you have to be -- you have to demonstrate what you're for, not what you're against. i think that's the key ingredient and sell a vision positive for america, not a negative vision about what's wrong with america. i think you have to have both but we didn't sell a positive vision. we didn't explain to people what we're for. i think that's the one thing we took away from the election, and that's what's lacking. >> do you see, senator schumer, a role for governor romney in this process, like to see the president bring him in to the negotiations over the fiscal cliff? >> you know about that but i would like to see him speak up. i think you could see him struggling in the general election, the hard right had moved him so far over on issu
graham and i are talking to our colleagues about this right now and i think we have a darn good chance using this blueprint to get something done this year. the republican party has learned that being anti-illegal and anti-immigrant doesn't work for them politically and they know t. >> senator coburn, what is the lesson for your party from this election? >> you have to be -- you have to demonstrate what you're for, not what you're against. i think that's the key ingredient and sell...